In this crossover episode, Jason van Schie makes a guest appearance on Safety on Tap with Andrew Barrett. Jason talks about the distinction between psychological safety and psychological health and safety (did you know they are two completely different concepts?); summarises the differences between Clinical and Organisational psychologists and the roles that both areas of practice play in psychological health and safety; explores the role of the employer in helping employees return to a state of positive mental health; and provides his thoughts on good starting points for organisations who want to improve their approach to psych health and safety.